Interesting population of plants.
Superficially suggesting A. pungens at first glance, but:
-majority of inflorescences exhibit some degree of branching at the base
-while some inflorescence/floral bracts are recurved, the majority are spreading, and also reduced in size
-fruit variably spheric/depressed-spheric; not mature enough to determine fusion of nutlets, but in this stage they at least suggest fusion upon maturity
-habitat is mixed conifer understory, with some marginal openings, but definitely not fully exposed
-plants trend toward an erect habit, but still overall have enough lateral branching to convey some degree of 'mounding'
These seem to point to A. parryana (if treated as more of an entity within the 'scale-bracted complex').
Voucher collected (Abbo #67) and deposited at the UCR herbarium.
A. retrorsa growing side-by-side with A. grandiflora. The two heads could be photographed side by side without detaching them from the stem!
This is a follow-up to this observation:
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/46562824
which itself was a followup to the observations so noted.
I accidentally left the penny in the field, so it was easy to find the same plants to re-photograph. The plants in the original picture had no flowers fully open. In just 22 days, the plants went from small buds to finished flowers. The pix of a fully open flower was from a plant just a few inches away.
The last pix shows what happens when you leave a penny on the ground surface in the shade for 22 days.
I remembered to take the penny back home with me this time. (:-)
Idyllwild, Mt. San Jacinto State Park, Mt. San Jacinto, San Bernardino National Forest, Santa Rosa and San Jacinto Mountains National Monument, California
Lobing pattern tended to be on shaded leaves and was inconsistent. Could be a hybrid with Q kelloggii but none of that sp. seen nearby.
Survey of the Hub area near Idylwild. We saw only this one patch
Note the short curly hairs shown in the first set of pix, and the pale gray to white twigs with dense hairs in the later pix. Those two characteristics key this plant out to C. pauciflorus and not C. cuneatus.
At this location we began seeing a number of acutidens. It is a scrub oak, clearly not wislizni, not chrysolepis, not cornelius-mulleri, not agrifolia. Someone could argue that it is berberidifolia, but I believe it is the hybrid acutidens.
The purpose of this revisit to upper May Valley Rd. was to examine a pine tree that Tom Chester thought might be a ponderosa. There are lots of ponderosas in Idyllwild but none were known at this particular spot. After examining the color of the needles, the size and color of the cones, the fragrance of the bark, and the color of the inner surface of bark chips, we determined that this tree is ponderosa. This information will help us differentiate ponderosas from other species in other locations.
In photo #1 the ponderosa is the larger tree in the center of the frame with true green color. To the right are slightly smaller Jeffrey pines showing blue-green color.
In photo #2 a ponderosa cone is on the left, a Jeffrey cone is at center, and a Coulter cone is on the right.